vetsgt02
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rules are rules. No Shoeless Joe Jackson and no Pete Rose. He knew what he was doing and he made his choice now he can live with it. If they put him in the HOF I will never watch another game.
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rules are rules. No Shoeless Joe Jackson and no Pete Rose. He knew what he was doing and he made his choice now he can live with it. If they put him in the HOF I will never watch another game.
redandpewter55
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Why no Shoeless Joe?
vetsgt02
Bench Warmer
Well because of the rule. I honestly think Bucky Weaver and Shoeless Joe should be allowed in since they could never prove they received any money or had anything to do with the throwing of the WS. When Rose broke the rule it was 100% understood by himself and everyone else in baseball, so he knew what he was doing. When the 1919 Blacksox sold out it was more because the owner was a complete Douche bag and was not paying them their bonus'.
redandpewter55
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Shoeless Joe had nothing to do with the 1919 Black Sox Scandal and should be in the HOF.
vetsgt02
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I agree he should be in. What I meant to say is if there is no Shoeless Joe then there should be no Pete Rose.
Seahawcla
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Shoeless should be in.
Rose does not need to be let back into baseball, but he never cheated the game. Betting on his own team was wrong and stupid but his numbers are 100% clean.
Pay-rod is an insecure, adulterer, lying, fraud who I look forward to watching his HoF get delayed as long as possible. Rose should be in before any of these juicers.
On a side note, how good is Greg Maddux to dominate during the era of these muscle bound cheaters?
Rose does not need to be let back into baseball, but he never cheated the game. Betting on his own team was wrong and stupid but his numbers are 100% clean.
Pay-rod is an insecure, adulterer, lying, fraud who I look forward to watching his HoF get delayed as long as possible. Rose should be in before any of these juicers.
On a side note, how good is Greg Maddux to dominate during the era of these muscle bound cheaters?
sffanmike25
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Not good enough to avoid Bonds taking him deep 8 times. :cheers:
redandpewter55
Bench Warmer
Greg Maddux is the bets pitcher of ALL TIME. Yes, I said it.
Brad
Bench Warmer
I would still rather have Randy Johnson or Curt Schilling in the playoffs. But, those are compeltely different types of pitchers. Maddox was great, no doubt.
I think this helps to prove that Ken Griffey Jr. is the best of this generation and Barry larkin is a HOFer for being a great defensive and offensive SS.
I think this helps to prove that Ken Griffey Jr. is the best of this generation and Barry larkin is a HOFer for being a great defensive and offensive SS.
redandpewter55
Bench Warmer
If we are talking about playoffs, John Smoltz is the guy you want.
vetsgt02
Bench Warmer
Sandy Koufax or the Bull Dog for me now for current pitchers Jake Peavy just because I like him :drunk:
redandpewter55
Bench Warmer
Nobody is better than John Smoltz in the playoffs.
sffanmike25
Bench Warmer
While I'm not sure that this will change any voters' minds in 2010 (he's not up against too stiff of competition that year), he should be in. But that's my opinion.
However, I'd be worried that he'll suffer the same fate as Alan Trammell has (who have very similar numbers). Basically, with the writers forgetting his accomplishments due to a rocky finish of his career.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/friv/scomp.cgi?I=trammal01:Alan+Trammell&st=career
redandpewter55
Bench Warmer
Speaking of people that need to be in the Hall of Fame.
Dale Murphy
WTH is up with that?
Dale Murphy
WTH is up with that?
Brad
Bench Warmer
Man I hope not. You would think this is HOF material:
MVP and WS ring
12 time All Star
3 Gold Gloves
9 Silver Sluggers
First 30/30 SS
Not looking at numbers, but Trammell is:
WS and WS MVP
six time all star
4 gold glove
3 time silver slugger
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