sorry i wan tto vent. so i started to try and get the 2012 carson palmer inceptions # cards. so i find a great deal on the red one. number 3/50. so the guy is like 10 shipped and its yours. so i say deal and ask for pay pal. then he comes back and says a guy offered him 15 and its his jersey # blah blah blah. so now he wants 15. im going to pay because i really want it. but geez just makes me mad:angry: sorry to vent!